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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 23, 2011 9:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feeling Groovy Jam

The 11/2 version does seem to be a hybrid with Weir playing Beginnings and the band playing Tighten Up,but on the 10/25 version just around 16 minutes in you feel a little shift and it seems Weir,Phil and TC are riffing on Beginnings.It was so clear in my first listen,now it's there but vague,damn you mklsgl,you have opened a can of worms.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-10-25.sbd.jagla.81.sbefail.shnf

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Poster: mklsgl Date: Sep 24, 2011 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feeling Groovy Jam

Can of worms?--sorry! Truth is that I read about this ("Beginnings") Jam in one of the review threads for either 10/25 or 11/2 and it piqued my scruffy mind.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 24, 2011 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feeling Groovy Jam

I was joking mklsgl,pointing out that you brought up another thing to ponder in the GD universe rich in things to ponder.

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Poster: enjoy every (dead) sandwich Date: Jan 11, 2016 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feeling Groovy Jam

This is the comment I read that piqued my interest,

"I like the rest of the set more than this dark star however, I can now rest in knowing that the 'only the beginning' jam jer commonly went into in the middle of dark stars in this period was first rather than chicago which clearly ripped it off as they did not come out until the following year - ok I will be charitable maybe there was something in the air..." (capn doubledose from 11-2-1969)

It seems as if this poster has it backwards though. Chicago Transit Authority released their eponymous album months before the Dead's first Tighten Up/ Beginnings Jam.

Terry Kath also is remembered playing in a mega jam on 7/7/69 at Piedmont Park with the Dead. Perhaps he threw in these chords and the Dead, consciously or subconsciously, were inspired by them.

"Most of the musicians retook the stage to play with the Dead. Big horn section, background singers, eight drummers, a bass quintet, and Harold Kelling, Glenn Phillips, Duane Allman and Dickie Betts, Delaney Bramlett, Chicago’s guitarist, Randy California, and Jerry Garcia trading and interlacing lead lines.

This was a two-hour shakedown song before they settled into “Dark Star” experimentation. This became a rock symphony full of the once and future hits of all concerned." (http://www.thestripproject.com/a-bus-stops-in-piedmont-park-july-7-1969/)